Where CP3 Could have gone?

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I made a similar thread to this one back in the old days at PoC but I'll do one here because you have to wonder if this was always CP3's or rather Don's intention to have ittake place many years after CP2.

I only say this because we all saw the Alternate ending to CP2 and I to think it was shot for a reason. Maybe it was originally meant to give us fans something to chew on... maybe there were different intentions behind it because they did go through the trouble to shoot it after all and it did make it on a cut of some kind albeit the TV version of CP2.

So with that said... do you think CP3 could have faired well being a sequel immediately picking up from the events of CP2.

I want to say that I understand Don's logic of it being the same as the first two films, but on the other hand if it picked up that fast one could look at it as one long film. Kinda like the last two Matrix films... if you watch those back to back it's like watching one long movie. The Lord of the Rings trilogy too for that matter. lol. So maybe fans wouldn't have minded watching waht could have been the extension of CP2.

I am not saying I am not happy with what we got in CP3 but when I see that alternate ending on CP2... It just gets my brain fluids flowing as to what more could have came from that. Also the scene is inherently creepy and it's kinda sad to know that in reality... the party was over.

[Spanky]

Well I guess it really depends if Don made CP3 with the intention of ending it there. If he did, then I thought CP3 was pretty solidi n conveying that. Chucky's death was pretty solid, the slo-mo kind of gave the viewer that prolonged time to think of everything he put Andy through. And it also shows an older Andy, so it can give off the feel he's ready to move on with his life now, he's no longer a kid.

I do agree with the "feels like one big movie" thing when they are shot in close succession. It would have been interesting to see where Andy went from there. CP3 said he just bounced around from foster home to foster home, but he was not of legal age to be alone, but it never really hinted at any troubling behavior that send him to military school. From my understanding with people I have known and what I've seen in "Malcolm in the Middle", military school is for youth who can't wait to play real life "Call of Duty" and extremely misbehaved kids, neither of which were Andy. Andy just seemed like he kept to himself, didn't show much enthusiasm or compassion in his foster homes... kind of like Kyle.

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For many years I thought CP3 was going to be the last film. I also kind of wonder what we would think of Chucky today if it was. I am sure a remake would have definitely have been made by now. 

Just when I made peace with thinking we at least got a solid trilogy out of the deal is when I then heard about Bride coming out. I will say that Bride did help elevate Chucky into that pop culture icon status. It felt like at that time people were going Chucky crazy where before that he was kind of fading. So it's hard to imagine CP3 being the end. Especially when I always knew that deep down... he'd be back.

As far as it being a contunious film... it could have been interesting to see it that way. I only say this because as Don said there wasn't much time given and CP3 came out 9 months later. I think fans could have get behind the fact that CP2 could have been a "to be continued" type of film... but in the end we got what we did get. As far as anything with Andy goes, I always pictured Kyle taking him in once she was of legal age, but I would imagine her and him having a record from the events of CP2. Nevermind the fact that they were being chased down by a killer doll... they did commit several crimes in that factory especially if no one is going to buy their story. So, I highly doubt she would be eligable to legally be anyone's guardian let alone a kid she commited crimes with.

Unless if Play Pals left that situation under wraps which actually makes a lot of sense for a few reasons.. of course judging by the board meeting in CP3 I doubt it, but you never know. They could have just simply ruled that workers death an accident and maybe even covered it in a way where police didn't have to go into the factory to snoop around for evidence. Some say that the reason Chucky's remains were still there because other's would see it more as nothing but a heap of melted plastic, but I would like to think that any good forensic specialist would have at least looked at the blood on and near Chucky's remains. Also something like this would have hit the news and I think if Tiffany were to be a key factor in anything... she would have got to Chucky much sooner because now she knew to look out for this kind of news after CP1.

So in a way... making CP3 so many years after the fact created some of these plot holes because it is weird how none of this got noticed and was left untouched for that long.

[Spanky]

Yeah, I always just assumed Play Pals saw what happened, and was like "Oh, not again" and just shut down the factory, and never opened it until the beginning of CP3.

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Yeah, but wouldn't have people have asked about that factory worker. I imagine he had a family. Unless if his only life was Play Pals. I mean he was also in the beginning of the movie helping rebuild Chucky at the beginning of CP2. So we saw him working both day and night shifts. It's possible he could have lived there. No family, no friends... then Play Pals could easily have covered up the whole incident. lol.

[Spanky]

Yeah, I mean if we really wanna dig deep, if they tried to say his death was an accident, OSHA and whatnot would have looked over the factory and everything, which would make us ask "wouldn't they notice all the blood and chunks everywhere?"

But I think they really didn't think of this, or care much, when conceptualizing the movies.

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No they did not. Which I am perfectly okay with because it doesn't take away from the story in anyway for me.

But of course the fan in me can't just look at a watch and appreciate it for what it is... I have to take it apart and see how it works. lol. I guess we all do that. This is why I like watching a Chucky movie for the first time because I just sit back and enjoy... it's after seeing it a few times I start thinking of the crazy questions.

I wonder what makes us want to see realism in films... even films where their main start is a killer doll. Maybe it's some form of identifing with the fiction that we all need on some level to make us believe what we are seeing or experiencing is real. Again if you think about it they already broke the fourth wall by having a man's sould go into a doll... anything is possible right? Yet, we still need that sense that it's grounded in reality despite the centerpiece being absurd. Not in comedy but in logic.   

[Spanky]

I think it's just more or less when we see the film multiple times, over and over, we start to notice these things. When we first see it, it's shock and awe. The more I see some of these movies the more I postulate different things or understand it. Hell, the more I watched the "Back to the Future" trilogy, the more I understood it and all the inner workings. And like graduating college in Computer Engineering and working as a programmer, the more I see the TRON or Matrix movies, the more I understand that shit and I can get closer and closer to actually understanding how that stuff could quite possibly be real in some time.

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I am sure it could be real. It just a matter of resources.

Speaking of Back to the Future... and not to go off  topic but I watched a vid explaining plot holes that were missed through out the series and one plot hole was Jennifer seeing future Marty. This guy ws trying to say that because he traveled to the future that really he shouldn't exist in the future because he was missing for 30 years  because he traveled forward 30 years therefore being absent in real time.

I can't say if I agree with this or not. I don't agree because who is to say that we weren't seeing 2 futures. One being Marty, older and now a father, and the other being that fact that we were seeing the older Marty thus proving that we knew he would make a safe voyage home in order to get to this point in time. Of course this is like saying the future is already written. If the future isn't written then we can say that he should have been missing for 30 years... but it doesn't mean he couldn't rewrite that future history.

Sorry... I just get so wrapped up in time travel themes.

[Spanky]

Lol, it's busted with Doc Brown's timeline explanation. Also, there's the fact all the time traveling in the trilogy takes place in the same calendar day in 1985.... so yeah. Also when Doc Brown is first explaining the time machine with Einstein, how it's all instantaneous, even though Einstein went one minute into the future.

But yeah, I am always curious what went on between CP2 and CP3.

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Well, there were Comics that came out back in 1991 that did take place between CP2 and CP3 that has a nice little side story that doesn't interfere with the movies plots.

I believe the story was some fanatic somehow ressurected Chucky, and then Chucky went on a killing spree framing this person. From there he went on to kill Det. Mike Norris after that he was seemingly killed by Karen Barclay and Mike's partner Jack but somehow he didn't die. He instead ended up at an amusement park and a shark came out of the water and ate him... I almost want to say it was a robotic jaws that did this because it was an amusement park in Hollywood... which if we were to consider this cannon in anyway... Seed wasn't his first time in Hollywood.

Again... I have to wonder if Don took a que from this idea. Eitherway... I am sure it's a nice little way of having a CP2.5 to enjoy, and I think I should make it my mission to buy these in the near future.

[Spanky]

Yeah those would be pretty awesome to own.

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I just looked on Ebay... this guy has them for $59.99 or make offer with 6 offers so far. I can be buying anything right now but I would actually buy those for that price.

I would love to evetually own all the Chucky comics. I believe they made 12 comics from Innovation in the 90's

CP2 Adaption- 4 issues
Original Story- 5 issues
CP3 Adaption- 3 issues

Then we have the DDP Comics from 2007:

Hack/Slash vs Chucky- 48 page Issues with 3 different covers to choose from
Original Chucky story- 5 issues or 1 book style all with varying cover art

I only have the big book of the DDP Chucky story so I am working backwards. I wonder if Curse will reignite interest in making more of these. Every slasher has had a decent and sometimes extensive comic series so why not.

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Hmm 60 bucks, I might have to jump on that.

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If you got it go for it. Like I said... I really shouldn't be buying anything right now or otherwise I'd jump on it myself. I never think to look for those when I am feeling the need to treat myself to something cool.